13: What Even Is A Quantum Leap? with Kaitlyn Kessler
From “What the hell is energetics?” to “Okay wait, that actually makes sense...”
I’m gonna be honest with you.
For years, I’ve followed business + energetics coach, Kaitlyn Kessler on Instagram thinking this girl is so smart, but I don’t totally get what she’s saying.
Like, I was vibing with the words. I loved the idea of things feeling less like a grind and more like magic. But a small, skeptical part of me (Capricorn sun and moon, let’s not forget) was like… okay, but how?
So I brought Kaitlyn on the pod to explain.
We covered so much — from breaking the cycle of lying to yourself to redefining rest as an actual rebellion. We talked about trusting yourself when you want to pivot and being okay with being misunderstood.
So if you too are woo-curious and are finding yourself intrigued, keep reading!
Rapid-Fire Squirrel Brain Questions
You already know I had to kick things off with some rapid-fire chaos.
Here’s what we learned about Kaitlyn:
If she could gather “nuts” like a squirrel: People’s secrets. She has what I call a “tell me your life story” face — and honestly, same.
If her brain had a pop-up ad: Get back into baking.
If her life came with a warning label it would say: Caution: Extremely fucking nosy. Will ask deep questions on the first date and skip straight to soul-bonding.
What she would win an Olympic gold medal for: The stamina to do puzzles and word games indefinitely
Something she thought she’d have figured out by now: Basic adulting. Like calling the dentist without spiraling.
Her walkout song: “Hustlin’” by Rick Ross
Self-Trust is Everything
If you take nothing else from this episode, take this: Most of your problems would be solved if you just trusted yourself.
And we can’t do that if we keep lying to ourselves.
OUCH?
Let’s break that down: self-trust doesn’t magically appear because you wrote it in your notes app under “Intentions for 2025.” It’s built through action — and inaction — in tiny, sneaky ways.
Like putting “gym at 5AM” on your calendar when you know damn well you’re not waking up before sunrise. That’s not manifestation. It’s a lie, and your brain keeps the receipts.
Kaitlyn’s plan for starting to trust yourself:
Step One: Stop lying to yourself. Delete the goals you’re not doing anyway. Take ‘em off the list. Set your brain free.
Step Two: Make tiny, keepable promises. Eat the salad you already bought. Go on the walk you already planned. Baby steps.
Step Three: Then, and only then, you can build the bigger mountain. Like maybe going to the gym once this week, not becoming The Rock overnight.
Self-trust isn’t just about doing the thing though. It’s about believing you will do the thing. And when you keep breaking that belief with empty promises and forgotten tasks, your trust tank hits E.
When Shoulds and Have-To’s Are Running the Show
You know that moment when you say, “Well, I should do that,” and your soul just sort of… dies a little?
Yeah. That.
According to Kaitlyn, when “shoulds” and “have-to’s” are driving the bus, you’re probably outsourcing your decisions and abandoning your truth.
She sees it all the time with her clients — and usually, it's not about a lack of ideas or passion.
It's about fear. Fear of being misunderstood. Fear of being seen the wrong way. Fear of pissing someone off.
And what does that loop back to?
Yep. You guessed it: self-trust.
Because real self-trust means trusting yourself to hold the discomfort of being misunderstood. To sit with the cringe of someone getting it wrong about you and not spiral into a people-pleasing shame puddle.
Kaitlyn explained it with a workout metaphor that hit a little too hard:
Imagine you’re in a Peloton class and you’re dying at minute 23 of a 45-minute ride. You want to quit, but you don’t. You sip water, pace your breath, maybe swear under it. But you keep going. Because you know it’s going to end. You know you’re going to feel better after.
That’s what it means to “hold it.”
And while life doesn’t come with a built-in 90-second recovery like a spin class, you can build those moments in. You can schedule your own breathers, your own reset buttons. You can create a support system. Giving back to yourself is how you build the muscle to hold the hard stuff.
(Sidenote: my therapist told me about a woman who takes a bath every single night and says it changed her whole damn life. So… maybe it really is that simple?)
So if you’re caught up in the land of “I should…” and “I have to…”
Pause.
Check in.
And maybe, just maybe, take a bath.
Rest as Rebellion and Fuck the Man
The truth is that resting doesn’t always feel good.
At least, not right away. Especially if you’re someone who’s built an entire identity around productivity and proving your worth via color-coded calendars and a Google Drive full of “next big things.”
But according to Kaitlyn, that resistance to rest is based on the lie that your value is tied to how much you produce.
And choosing to rest, to slow down, to not burn yourself out to prove you deserve to be here is not lazy.
It’s punk rock.
Rest, in Kaitlyn’s world, isn’t all day-long baths and $100 face masks (though if that’s your vibe, go off).
It’s the micro-moments that add up to big shifts. Taking three deep breaths before you start your workday. Stepping outside for ten minutes without your phone. Saying “nah” to another nonessential Zoom call.
Kaitlyn put it perfectly:
“Why have we adopted this belief that our worth and inherent goodness is in how hard we work? Why do we think blood, sweat, and tears makes us the goodest little girl?”
So if the word rest makes you itchy, try reframing it like this:
Rest is resistance.
Rest is reclaiming.
Rest is fucking the man.
And we’re so down for that.
What Even Is a Quantum Leap?
Before this convo, I had a sneaky little suspicion the term quantum leap might come up.
You’ve seen it before, right? In a carousel post with neon text, in someone’s “$50k month” testimonial, in your inbox paired with the word mastermind. And you’ve probably thought:
Okay but… what the hell does that mean?
Same!
So I asked Kaitlyn to define it.
The way most people use “quantum leap” is simply marketing.
You know the type. “Go from zero to six figures overnight.” “Unlock your next-level self in five minutes or less.” “Pay me $3,000 and ascend to a higher business realm.”
Blah blah blah.
But the truth is that a real quantum leap isn’t one big, magical moment.
It’s the breaking point after a million tiny, unsexy decisions.
It’s choosing the salad instead of fries.
It’s replying to that email you don’t feel like answering.
It’s showing up consistently, even when no one’s watching.
Kaitlyn put it like this:
“You wake up one day, put on a bikini and you’re like, I’m hot as fuck. But that didn’t happen overnight. That happened because you made a thousand micro-decisions to be that version of you.”
And it’s not just about body stuff, obviously. We got into the business version, too. Like that one time I made $3,000 while getting my hair done for a wedding. Did it happen in two seconds? Technically yes. But also, no because before that moment I had:
Built the program
Written the entire sales page
Talked to the client multiple times
Promoted it like a normal human, not a girlboss AI bot
That $3K didn’t magically appear — it was the result of a system I’d nurtured for months. It was my own version of a quantum leap. One that was earned, not manifested in a margarita-fueled daydream.
What Energetics Have to Do With Business Strategy
Okay, so let’s say you’re pivoting.
Not burning it all down necessarily, but you’re shifting gears.
You want something different — but also sustainable. You want space and success. You want to build a business that fits into your life instead of bulldozing it.
That’s exactly where Kaitlyn’s people tend to find her: In the pivot-y in-between, whispering “There’s gotta be a better way.”
She helps them figure out what that better way actually looks and feels like — based on their energy, capacity, and real-life circumstances. Not based on what they should do or what a random bro-marketer yelled at them on TikTok.
And a big part of how she gets them there is a signature blend of energetics, strategy, and self-trust.
And Kaitlyn knows that firsthand.
Back in 2019, she was burned out on her design business. She was successful on paper, but in her gut? She was done.
So she started dipping her toes into coaching, and she was good at it.
But closing the design business felt scary. Wrong, even. Would she really shut down something working just because it didn’t feel aligned anymore?
That’s when the self-trust piece clicked.
“All of that was sort of wrapped up in this journey of building up my self-trust to be like, okay, I can do it.”
And listen. That’s the kind of coach you want in your corner. Not someone who read about self-trust in a book and turned it into a four-step framework.
Someone who’s been in the trench. Who’s looked around, said “F this,” and climbed out — with receipts.
Did Anyone Say “Journal Prompts”?!?
Kaitlyn tried to come in here all chill and casual like, “Yeah, I journal, but that probably sounds kind of basic and lame...”
Miss Girl.
People would literally pay money for your journal prompts. We are frothing at the mouth for your “basic and lame” thoughts, okay?
When Kaitlyn journals, she doesn’t just write down dreamy manifestations or Pinterest-board affirmations. She gets real with herself.
“I just write down the thing I want... and then I write all the things my brain is being a dick about.”
That’s the journal prompt right there.
Start with: What do I want?
Then: What is my brain telling me about why I can’t have it?
And finally: Is that even true? And what would I rather believe instead?
It’s so simple.
It’s so good.
And it’s not about pretending the doubt isn’t there. It’s about compassionately calling BS on the parts of you that are just trying to keep you safe.
Your subconscious is trying to protect you. These beliefs were probably helpful at one point. But now you get to say, ‘Thanks for the input, babe, but I’ve got it from here.’”
You’re not an idiot for having negative thoughts.
You’re a human with a pink squishy brain trying to avoid metaphorical lions in the Target parking lot.
I told Kaitlyn about how I tell myself I’m hot regardless of how I feel when I look in the mirror. Not because it’s delusional, but because it works.
That’s the power of deciding the story.
My quote:
“My two modes are: I feel good about how I look, or I don’t. But either way, I’m hot.”
Put it on a T-shirt.
So next time your brain says, “I could never do that,” channel Kaitlyn’s go-to reframe:
“When did you decide that?”
(Spoiler: You can decide something else now.)
Woo-Curious? Let’s Talk About It
I kicked off this part by saying:
“I don’t know if I’m woo-curious, but I think I need to DTR my relationship with the woo.”
If you’ve ever seen someone on Instagram talk about “energy work” or “aligned offers” and felt both intrigued and confused, you get me.
Kaitlyn explained that energetics isn’t some spooky, mysterious thing. It’s just a slightly more romantic view on basic science.”
It’s not about manifesting a yacht with your full moon bathwater.
It’s about checking in with your thoughts, understanding your patterns, and being honest with yourself about how you feel, so you can make moves that align with what you actually want.
This episode wasn’t just for the self-identified witches (though you’re welcome here too, broom babes). It was for the woo-curious, the skeptics, and the “okay, wait… I think I get it now” girlies.
So if you’re feeling the nudge to explore this side of yourself—or if you’re just tired of white-knuckling your way through business with nothing but brute force and calendar alerts, consider this your permission slip:
It’s not that deep. But it is that powerful.
Love you, mean it!
Point of the Story
Quantum leaps are made in the micro moments, when you trust yourself enough to show up differently.
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This episode was edited by Adrienne Cruz.